Posted Aug 11, 2022 by Michael L. Brown

Is it true that the Bible supports the pro-choice position when it comes to abortion? After all, the Bible is about making choices, including the choice of whether we go to heaven or hell. But the Bible is not about coercion, because of which, the argument goes, we should not pass laws forbidding abortion. That is the woman’s choice. How should we respond to this line of reasoning?

In recent days, well-known TV personalities like Whoopi Goldberg and Rev. Al Sharpton have made this argument.

Goldberg stated that God gave us “freedom of choice.”

Rev. Sharpton said, “The Bible — if you’re using this as a religious argument — the Bible is about choice. You can go to heaven or hell; there’s nowhere in the Bible that says you have to go to heaven. So where do we get this theology of forcing something when the reality is that you can’t even biblically base that?”

He added, “If you are a minister as I am, you can preach to people to convert them. You do not make laws to compel them.”

On the one hand, God did give us freedom of choice, and we should all be thankful for that. None of us want to be robots who are preprogrammed to behave in a certain way. None of us want to be automatons. In fact, next to our existence, the thing we prize most is our freedom.

It is also true that God does not compel us to follow Him.

He draws us and calls us and appeals to us and reaches out to us and admonishes us. But He does not force us.

As expressed by Moses in Deuteronomy, “This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live and that you may love the LORD your God, listen to his voice, and hold fast to him. For the LORD is your life, and he will give you many years in the land he swore to give to your fathers, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob” (Deuteronomy 30:19–20).

Or in the words of Joshua, “Now fear the LORD and serve him with all faithfulness. Throw away the gods your ancestors worshiped beyond the Euphrates River and in Egypt, and serve the LORD. But if serving the LORD seems undesirable to you, then choose for yourselves this day whom you will serve, whether the gods your ancestors served beyond the Euphrates, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land you are living. But as for me and my household, we will serve the LORD” (Joshua 24:14–15).

Or in the words of Jesus, “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it” (Matthew 7:13–14).

We choose the gate; we choose our fate. God does not force us to come.

But what does this have to do with making laws concerning abortion (or, for that matter, making other laws)? Absolutely nothing.

Laws are put in place for the good of the society, to maintain order and to enhance safety.

That’s why it is illegal to drink and drive.

Yes, it’s your choice. But when your choice can potentially affect other people’s lives, there are laws that restrict your choices. Make the wrong choice, and you will pay the penalty.

In the same way, it is illegal to possess or sell heroin.

Yes, it’s your choice as to whether you put drugs into your body. But certain drugs are considered a danger to society, because of which laws are passed against their distribution and use.

More broadly, even though someone can choose to steal or murder, it is illegal to do so, and all of us (aside from the lawbreakers) are glad these laws are in place. Without them, society would collapse overnight. There would be chaos and mayhem on an unprecedented scale.

When it comes to our own bodies, we can shave our heads or pierce our tongues or cover our torso with tattoos. Theoretically, we could even cut off one of our fingers or toes if we chose to.

But we don’t have the right to do this to someone else’s body. And when it comes to abortion, the woman is making a choice about the body within her body. That is not her right.

Yes, she has the freedom to make that choice. But it is a choice with consequences, a sinful choice, a wrong choice in God’s sight, a choice that negatively affects another life.

In cases like this, the law should be here to protect the life of that baby in the womb. That is what righteousness and justice (let alone mercy and compassion) require. This is especially true when we realize that, according to the Bible, that baby is created in the image of God and is already a human being with destiny and purpose in His sight.

That’s why, when it comes to abortion, those who honor God and love His Word should be pro-life.

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yeshuais4me posted a comment · Aug 26, 2022
NO!!! God allows us to make our opinions known; however, our God/Creator will decide if you opinion is sinning against God when you say anything (see below). As I look back at my years of life on earth, today I realize how blessed I have been. My experience during the Six Day War during June, 1967 has shown me that God does exist. First know that there is only one God our creator. My position during the Six Day War allowed me access to events of this war, some in real time. Of course I could not absorb every event that happened. Later in life I realized that I did not know the true God that we should worship. Most days I seek to know more about our Creator. Seek our Creator always!!! Isaiah 66 The Prophet Isaiah wrote approximately from 680 BC to 700 BC. He wrote chapter 66 mainly to give us prophecy about future events of which some have been completed during my time on earth. An example would be the creation of the state of Israel for the last time as shown in verse eight below. Complete Jewish Bible - Isaiah 66: Isaiah 66 1 “Heaven is my throne,” says Adonai,
 “and the earth is my footstool.
 What kind of house could you build for me?
 What sort of place could you devise for my rest? 2 Didn’t I myself make all these things?
 This is how they all came to be,” says Adonai. “The kind of person on whom I look with favor
 is one with a poor and humble spirit,
 who trembles at my word. 8 Who ever heard of such a thing?
 Who has ever seen such things?
 Is a country born in one day? (Nov. 29, 1948, creation of Israel)
 Is a nation brought forth all at once?
 For as soon as Tziyon went into labor,
 she brought forth her children. 9 “Would I let the baby break through
 and not be born?” asks Adonai.
 “Would I, who cause the birth,
 shut the womb?” asks your God. Comment: These are very good questions that ask when conception happens will you continue to allow your child to be born? Science shows us today that conception happens when the egg and sperm come together and there is a flash of light. So God shows us that the beginning of life starts at conception when the Word (also known as our Messiah) changes conception to life. It appears from verse nine that after conception only man can stop life before birth. This means that man must commit murder to end a life of an unborn child. Know that our Creator will judge every death caused by man, including the death of an unborn. Most those judged will end up in the weeds. Those that do not want to follows God will end! https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-just-captured-the-actual-flash-of- light-that-sparks-when-sperm-meets-an-egg Know that using God’s calendar we see that the Messiah was conceived on the 30th day in the Hebrew year of 3755, month Nine and born during the seventh month on the fifteenth day during the Sh`mittah year 3756. You must use the calendar God gave us to have correct dates for of events involving God!!! Today’s calendars are a mess with so many different calendars, mostly pagan calendars to choose from. Know that most churches follow the pagan worship of the sun god. The pagans were in fear of the sun disappearing. Most verified that the sun was not going to disappear after they saw the sun four days after the winter solstice which was normally 21 December using today's Gregorian calendar. Know that Torah tells us to rest on the seventh day. God never changed His mind about what day to rest. ********************************************************************** This part of the gospel of John is very important that we understand what we are being told. Gospel John 1:1-14 1 In the beginning was the Word,
 and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 All things came to be through him,
 and without him nothing made had being. (a living thing; esp: person) 4 In him was life,
 and the life was the light of mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness,
 and the darkness has not suppressed it. 6 There was a man sent from God whose name was Yochanan (John the Immerser). 7 He came to be a testimony, to bear witness concerning the light; (the Messiah) so that through him, everyone might put his trust in God and be faithful to him. 8 He himself was not that light; no, he came to bear witness concerning the light. 9 This was the true light,
 which gives light to everyone entering the world. 10 He was in the world — the world came to be through him —
 yet the world did not know him. 11 He came to his own homeland,
 yet his own people did not receive him. 12 But to as many as did receive him, to those who put their trust in his person and power, he gave the right to become children of God, 13 not because of bloodline, physical impulse or human intention, but because of God. 14 The Word became a human being and lived with us,
 and we saw his Sh’khinah (Devine Presence),
 the Sh’khinah of the Father’s only Son,
 full of grace and truth. John 14:30-31 30 “I won’t be talking with you much longer, because the ruler of this world is coming. He has no claim on me; 31 rather, this is happening so that the world may know that I love the Father, and that I do as the Father has commanded me. “Get up! Let’s get going! 1 John 5:19 makes it very clear -19 “We know that we are from God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the Evil One.” Know that at this time the Messiah (Jesus) is with the Father. (Picture of The Golden Gate near the end of the Six Day War that returned Jerusalem to Israel. Which I could not transfer to this reply) Some say the Amos 9 and Acts 15 were also accomplished by this war. Matthew 13:40: Just as the weeds are collected and burned up in the fire, so will it be at the end of the age. Know that the Messiah in the Gospel of Matthew chapter 5, verses 17 and 18 also in the Gospel of Luke chapter 16 verse 17 tells us that Torah will exist beyond Heaven and Earth.
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yeshuais4me posted a comment · Aug 26, 2022
NO!!! God allows us to make our opinions known; however, our God/Creator will decide if you opinion is sinning against God when you say anything (see below). As I look back at my years of life on earth, today I realize how blessed I have been. My experience during the Six Day War during June, 1967 has shown me that God does exist. First know that there is only one God our creator. My position during the Six Day War allowed me access to events of this war, some in real time. Of course I could not absorb every event that happened. Later in life I realized that I did not know the true God that we should worship. Most days I seek to know more about our Creator. Seek our Creator always!!! Isaiah 66 The Prophet Isaiah wrote approximately from 680 BC to 700 BC. He wrote chapter 66 mainly to give us prophecy about future events of which some have been completed during my time on earth. An example would be the creation of the state of Israel for the last time as shown in verse eight below. Complete Jewish Bible - Isaiah 66: Isaiah 66 1 “Heaven is my throne,” says Adonai,
 “and the earth is my footstool.
 What kind of house could you build for me?
 What sort of place could you devise for my rest? 2 Didn’t I myself make all these things?
 This is how they all came to be,” says Adonai. “The kind of person on whom I look with favor
 is one with a poor and humble spirit,
 who trembles at my word. 8 Who ever heard of such a thing?
 Who has ever seen such things?
 Is a country born in one day? (Nov. 29, 1948, creation of Israel)
 Is a nation brought forth all at once?
 For as soon as Tziyon went into labor,
 she brought forth her children. 9 “Would I let the baby break through
 and not be born?” asks Adonai.
 “Would I, who cause the birth,
 shut the womb?” asks your God. Comment: These are very good questions that ask when conception happens will you continue to allow your child to be born? Science shows us today that conception happens when the egg and sperm come together and there is a flash of light. So God shows us that the beginning of life starts at conception when the Word (also known as our Messiah) changes conception to life. It appears from verse nine that after conception only man can stop life before birth. This means that man must commit murder to end a life of an unborn child. Know that our Creator will judge every death caused by man, including the death of an unborn. Most those judged will end up in the weeds. Those that do not want to follows God will end! https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-just-captured-the-actual-flash-of- light-that-sparks-when-sperm-meets-an-egg Know that using God’s calendar we see that the Messiah was conceived on the 30th day in the Hebrew year of 3755, month Nine and born during the seventh month on the fifteenth day during the Sh`mittah year 3756. You must use the calendar God gave us to have correct dates for of events involving God!!! Today’s calendars are a mess with so many different calendars, mostly pagan calendars to choose from. Know that most churches follow the pagan worship of the sun god. The pagans were in fear of the sun disappearing. Most verified that the sun was not going to disappear after they saw the sun four days after the winter solstice which was normally 21 December using today's Gregorian calendar. Know that Torah tells us to rest on the seventh day. God never changed His mind about what day to rest. ********************************************************************** This part of the gospel of John is very important that we understand what we are being told. Gospel John 1:1-14 1 In the beginning was the Word,
 and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 All things came to be through him,
 and without him nothing made had being. (a living thing; esp: person) 4 In him was life,
 and the life was the light of mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness,
 and the darkness has not suppressed it. 6 There was a man sent from God whose name was Yochanan (John the Immerser). 7 He came to be a testimony, to bear witness concerning the light; (the Messiah) so that through him, everyone might put his trust in God and be faithful to him. 8 He himself was not that light; no, he came to bear witness concerning the light. 9 This was the true light,
 which gives light to everyone entering the world. 10 He was in the world — the world came to be through him —
 yet the world did not know him. 11 He came to his own homeland,
 yet his own people did not receive him. 12 But to as many as did receive him, to those who put their trust in his person and power, he gave the right to become children of God, 13 not because of bloodline, physical impulse or human intention, but because of God. 14 The Word became a human being and lived with us,
 and we saw his Sh’khinah (Devine Presence),
 the Sh’khinah of the Father’s only Son,
 full of grace and truth. John 14:30-31 30 “I won’t be talking with you much longer, because the ruler of this world is coming. He has no claim on me; 31 rather, this is happening so that the world may know that I love the Father, and that I do as the Father has commanded me. “Get up! Let’s get going! 1 John 5:19 makes it very clear -19 “We know that we are from God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the Evil One.” Know that at this time the Messiah (Jesus) is with the Father. (Picture of The Golden Gate near the end of the Six Day War that returned Jerusalem to Israel. Which I could not transfer to this reply) Some say the Amos 9 and Acts 15 were also accomplished by this war. Matthew 13:40: Just as the weeds are collected and burned up in the fire, so will it be at the end of the age. Know that the Messiah in the Gospel of Matthew chapter 5, verses 17 and 18 also in the Gospel of Luke chapter 16 verse 17 tells us that Torah will exist beyond Heaven and Earth.
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Really now posted a comment · Aug 14, 2022
No, you are right. Clumps of cells don’t ‘jump for joy’. Movement in the womb is usually felt between 16-24 weeks. So ending a pregnancy before 16 weeks is perfectly acceptable. God provides us with freewill. With your theory of ‘government preventing us from doing evil’, where does it begin and end?? Overeating (gluttony) is a ‘sin’. Should the government then be in our kitchens, supermarkets, and restaurants? What about the internet? Plenty of ‘evil’ there. Or tv and media? Or alcohol? Should the government be in our beer fridges and wine cellars?? Give your head a shake. What an insane theory you’re supporting here.
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[email protected] posted a comment · Aug 13, 2022
I was reading Martyn Lloyd-Jones' excellent commentary on Romans 13 today (There are 14 volumes on Romans). He carefully parses out the role of the state and the role of the Church, giving a historical account of how the church has been controlled by the state and the state at other times was controlled by the church (think Roman Catholic control after the fall of Rome). He says a proper understanding of the first 7 verses of the 13 chapter of Romans is that God has instituted government (no specific form is prescribed) to keep evil in check and promote the well-being of citizens. History has shown that man left to his own devices is capable of much evil and government makes laws to hold that evil at bay. Given that role of government, it follow that the evil of abortion should fall within the province of law making. The only way to argue against this is to show that abortion is not evil. For the Christian the choice should be clear: "When Elizabeth heard Mary’s greeting, the baby leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. And she cried out with a loud voice and said, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! And how has it happened to me, that the mother of my Lord would come to me? For behold, when the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby leaped in my womb for joy". Luke 1:41-44. Does a clump of cells leap for joy? And Mary is referred to as "the mother of my Lord"--present tense--not the "future mother of my Lord" referring to Christ after His birth. I wonder how the great Rev. Al Sharpton maneuvers around this verse?
OT posted a comment · Aug 13, 2022
It’s all connected to sin, behavior.
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A._catholic posted a comment · Aug 12, 2022
Neither criminalizing abortion nor unrestricted legal abortion is an adequate response to the issue, as the underlying cause of abortion is left untouched. A sick society spends $$$millions stoking sexual desire and getting out the message that the creation of new life is just a 'for pleasure' consumer item to be engaged indiscriminately without respect for its power and purpose.To criminalize abortion alone without addressing the underlying false presentation of sexuality in a 'for profit' society (and failing to provide adequate material and spiritual support so that birth can be 'chosen') is wrong; saying that unborn life can be destroyed for any and all reasons (pro-choice) is also wrong. Both 'sides' need to work *together* to make abortion 'rare' through means other than criminalization.
Swkh310 posted a comment · Aug 12, 2022
Another example of the “Sore Winner” complex—specific to the fringe Right—that has always left me bemused. Those opposed to abortion rights just enjoyed the triumph they sought for 50 years. But instead of celebrating their victory, they wallow in defensivenesses.
OT posted a comment · Aug 11, 2022
Jesus !