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Rev. Randy K. posted a comment · Oct 08, 2016
You’re using statistics too Soughtful7. Are you trying to justify fear and hatred of white police officers and white people by your statistics? Just because I can find some statistics showing a handful of preachers guilty of stealing money from the church, can we conclude that all preachers are in the ministry for the money? Of course not. Just because I can find some Doctors who have falsely reported medical claims to Medicaid for hundreds of thousands of dollars, can we conclude that all Doctors are ripping off Medicaid? Of course not. But that is the same kind of false conclusion you are trying to make with your statistics Soughtful7. Furthermore, if you are going to mention God and Black Lives Matter in the same comment, you are a very mixed up person. I have looked at the official BLM web site. It is anti-Christian in numerous ways. Their stated goal is to “disrupt the nuclear family.” They mention mothers and children but not fathers. That is exactly the problem in the black community—a serious lack of fathers in the picture. BLM are also strongly pro-homosexual and pro-transgender. You should read the book by black author Taleeb Starkes called, “Black Lies Matter.” It might help you to see things in a more objective manner Soughtful7.
Soughtful7 posted a comment · Oct 07, 2016
Rev. Randy K:
The way people who seek to justify their fear (and often hatred) typically try to use statistics, is what I find more interesting.
Take a look at the articles in the links below. No amount of statistics you find, will ever truly justify fear and hatred of people who are murdered unjustly.
At some point, all of us have to make a decision, to either love as God has commanded us, or give in to fear (and hate), which God has warned us of. Happy reading to you.
http://atlantablackstar.com/2015/03/03/9-facts-white-white-crime-far-exceeds-black-black-crime-media-conceals/
http://usuncut.com/black-lives-matter/black-on-black-crime/
T. Letoka posted a comment · Oct 01, 2016
Perhaps we black folks just need to outgrow something. Outgrow whining at the drop of a hat from some white guy looking at me funny to rioting at every shooting. It's a free world, if we used freedom and democracy to build better lives for ourselves in our own communities instead of contantly getting involved in drugs and gangs and impregnating girls and pollutingnthe environment - then perhaps we would not be having constant battles with the cops. We would feel better about ourselves and not care what some antiquated kkk thought about us.
T. Letoka posted a comment · Oct 01, 2016
Perhaps we black folks just need to outgrow something. Outgrow whining at the drop of a hat from some white guy looking at me funny to rioting at every shooting. It's a free world, if we used freedom and democracy to build better lives for ourselves in our own communities instead of contantly getting involved in drugs and gangs and impregnating girls and pollutingnthe environment - then perhaps we would not be having constant battles with the cops. We would feel better about ourselves and not care what some antiquated kkk thought about us.
T. Letoka posted a comment · Oct 01, 2016
Perhaps we black folks just need to outgrow something. Outgrow whining at the drop of a hat from some white guy looking at me funny to rioting at every shooting. It's a free world, if we used freedom and democracy to build better lives for ourselves in our own communities instead of contantly getting involved in drugs and gangs and impregnating girls and pollutingnthe environment - then perhaps we would not be having constant battles with the cops. We would feel better about ourselves and not care what some antiquated kkk thought about us.
Rev. Randy K. posted a comment · Oct 01, 2016
Statistics are interesting things Soughtful7. For example, statistics showing an unarmed black man being shot by a white police officer do not include the unarmed black man trying to grab the police officer's gun--such as the instance in 2015 where three officers were killed with their own guns, which the suspects had wrestled from them, or the instance of unarmed black men in San Diego, CA and Prince George's County, MD attempting to reach for a gun in a police officer's holster. In the San Diego case, the unarmed black man actually "jumped the officer" and assaulted him. Here are some more surprising statistics: according to the Wall Street Journal, 2009 statistics from the Bureau of Justice Statistics reveal that blacks were charged with 62 percent of robberies, 57 percent of murders and 45 percent of assaults in the 75 biggest counties in the country, despite only comprising roughly 15 percent of the population in these counties. Here's another surprising statistic: Blacks commit 75 percent of all shootings, 70 percent of all robberies, and 66 percent of all violent crime in New York City, even though they consist of only 23 percent of the city's population.
Here's another surprising statistic: According to a study conducted University of Pennsylvania criminologist Greg Ridgeway, in 2015 black cops were 3.3 times more likely to fire a gun than other cops at a crime scene. Here's another startling statistic: Even though blacks make up only 13 percent of the population, according to FBI data, they found that 40 percent of cop killers are black. According to Mac Donald, the police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black than a cop killing an unarmed black person.
Soughtful7 posted a comment · Sep 30, 2016
Dr. Brown:
We should indeed be careful with how we use our words. We should indeed, be hesitant to accuse one another, especially as believers. As a believer, who so happens to be of African descent here in America, the Holy Spirit has made me very sensitive to this truth.
The Spirit of the Lords moves to unite us, to love one another, even to love our enemies.
However, there is another side to the coin that you do not appear to be fully seeing. I am grateful to the Lord that you see and have spoken out against racism before, and have done so sincerely.
Yet, your take on so many of the murders of black people here in the U.S. at the hands of law enforcement is deeply troubling. Of course, we are all obligated to let the investigations fully bear out the facts in each case.
Still, in so many of these cases, it is clear that these individuals either do not have weapons, or have them legally. Even in cases where an individual may have a weapon illegally, the concern I have,... is that the idea that the lives of these individuals are precious in the sight of the Lord, has truly fallen by the way side. Even among "believers." In some cases, especially among "believers."
I know, you and others, will point to other things you have said or written, to argue that you believe these lives have value.
You seem to assert in your article, that your refusal to automatically assume police guilt, unfairly causes you to be accused of racism.
However, it is not merely that you "didn’t immediately assume that the police were guilty of killing an unarmed black man in cold blood" as you have stated in this article, for example.
It is the fact that you, and so many others who assess these situations, don't seem to see that in all of these cases, law enforcement do not even seem to have a perspective that would even consider the possibility that these individuals could be apprehended without the loss of life.
This notion, just seems to be completely absent in the response of too many law enforcers, and in the assessment of people like yourself. This is inconsistent with the heart of the Lord, who created these human beings, loves them, wants to save them (if he hasn't already), and desires to see them flourish.
Below, I have given you links of several articles and news footage that show white individuals who clearly possessed firearms, and were apprehended by law enforcement without the loss of life. In some cases, without the cops having to discharge one of their weapons, despite the obvious threat.
In one case, a young man named Jared Leone walked into a police station high on mushrooms, ended up taking an officer's firearm from that officer, and discharging that weapon right in the police station.
Was he assassinated by a group of terrified officers? No, he was eventually apprehended, without to cops firing one round.
In another case, a man goes into his car, retrieves his gun, comes back out of the car, and is waving his weapon around, while children are hiding terrified in the restrooms. While the police did shoot him, they aimed for a non fatal location on his body, and eventually apprehended him, without taking his life.
Was he not scary enough? The poor children seemed the think he was.
I won't summarize all of these incidents, as they are outlined in the articles or news stories provided in the links below. But the pattern is a clear one.
I would love it if you could find at least eight scenarios where a person of African descent here in this country had a firearm clearly visible to the police, and was apprehended by police without having his life taken.
The same luxury that was afforded the white individuals in the articles contained in the links I provided.
I'm sure there has to be at least some cases, right? Although not nearly enough evidently.
If you can find 8 examples, it would certainly make me feel a lot better. Like maybe some in this nation, are truly willing to love all people, including black people, and see our lives a precious too. God has clearly proclaimed that all are fearfully and wonderfully made by Him!
In an attempt to find examples of black men with firearms, who were apprehended safely, I typed this phrase into google search: "black men with guns apprehended safely"
The result? Nothing but articles about white men with guns who were apprehended safely!
Perhaps your research skills are superior to mines. Perhaps you will find these hidden examples. Or maybe, these examples don't really exist.
And if you can't find those examples...or at least not nearly as many of them, what do you suppose that reveals to us about how we value all life in this country?
1 John 4:18 (NKJV)
18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love.
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/here-are-8-white-people-who-pointed-guns-at-police-officers-and-didnt-get-killed/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/men-who-had-guns-but-werent-shot-by-police-guess-what-many-have-in-common/2016/07/07/5830f510-4468-11e6-88d0-6adee48be8bc_story.html
http://www.kptv.com/story/22961454/police-man-on-mushrooms-grabbed-officers-gun-fired-shot
Prophetjess1 posted a comment · Sep 29, 2016
To the Hebrewhelena (?) I really think it is narrow minded of you to say the Jews were the most persecuted of all peoples - They are the most recognized on film. The African slave trade was global. I also know for a fact that it more easy to hide the fact that you are Jewish (especially) in the the United States than it is to hide the fact that you are black since the lie was perpetuated that the Jews are white, just like the Native Americans . I do not feel that Dr. Brown is racist but I most certainly think that you are. My Great Grandfather was a full blooded Jewish man who raped my Great grandmother when she spurned his advances. Imagine that a Jew raping a black woman when she said no. I digress. The Holocaust is repeatedly brought to the forefront yet the 30,000,000 or more Africans enslaved, raped, beaten, torched, and dragged to the ends of the earth are told to take it like a Jew!
Hebrewhelena posted a comment · Sep 23, 2016
Dear Dr Brown:
Shalom!
I read your article about being careful using the "r" word and here are some thoughts I really think you should think about.
Me and my Jewish friends were talking (as you know, Jews are a race too and No ONE has been more persecuted then The Jews!) no one.
Anyway, on with my thoughts...we were talking about how Jews handle antisemitism so much differently then how Blacks handle real or perceived racism. And I can't relate. I think it's wrong the way it's been fought. And I feel you should understand especially.
People get fired from jobs etc for posting things that are hard truths!
When we as Jews were persecuted in Europe, did you EVER hear about us complain??? Loot?? Burn our neighborhoods???? We never resorted to such evil behavior. Antisemitism is alive and well across the world but we as Jews just keep moving forward and up! Even if we were targeted by police, we still wouldn't make ourselves the center of all attention!! You would think the way the media is going that all America is known for is slavery!! Ridiculous!!! Blacks owned and sold slaves WAY before white people sailed to Africa!
Also, With as much Bible reading and knowledge that you have...you should know that a few rogue cops are NOT the problem for our black Americans !! Fatherless homes are!!! Ugh!!
Why aren't you protesting Black on Black Crime??? 73% single parent homes???? Thug, violent rap songs that glorify promiscuity and rebellion?????
These are the REAL issues plaguing Black America!